Perhaps you realize that at the bottom of this whole, how can I say, this whole structure there’s a motion from left to right, from right to left, but at the top it remains stationary. So these illustrate the two poles of your being. At the bottom of your being is not only your body but your mind and so on, everything, your personality, is changing, is moving in time and space. And on the other hand, the other pole of your being, you remain really at the pinnacle. There is a point of your being which does not change.

But between these two points there are a lot of, these two poles, there are a lot of very significant points. And one is the transit between transiency and eternity which is everlastingness. That means that whatever you achieved in your life or your realization, never gets lost. Recycled into the programming of the universe. So there is a motion from the bottom towards the top instead of just from the left to the right and it’s a cycle and of course there’s feedback. But that’s not eternity, that’s everlastingness.

When Jalaudin Rumi says, “Tonight the umpteen stars give birth to the life eternal—to the life everlasting.” That’s what he’s saying, is that the divine programming is being enriched by the experience of the Earth. And that never gets lost, that knowledge never gets lost. So God acquires a mode of cognizance by experiencing Him/Herself as us in the existential world. But then there’s a higher point which is really the pinnacle of the pendulum and which represents unchanging—eternity, it fact, it represents eternity. Doesn’t have a beginning. Everlastingness has a beginning. There’s a some kind of a process there, of extraction of the essence from the contingent but at the pinnacle there is, the pinnacle does not entertain qualities, of course, matter of course, is pure intelligence.